"Will Dockery" wrote in message
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> "msifg" wrote:
>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>>>"Rob Evans", mushmouth poet, wrote:
>>>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>>>>> "Rob Evans" wrote;
>>>>>> "msifg" wrote:
>
>
>
>> >> > Actually, if you did show up around here, I'd welcome you, offer you
> a cup
>> >> > of coffee and invite you onto the stage... a crazy old Englishter
> reading
>> >> > poetry might be quite a draw in downtown Smith's Station, Alabama:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.wikinfo.org/index.php/Image:Smiths-station.jpg
>> >
>> > This is downtown Smith's Station where the Del Ranch bar is located,
> scene
>> > of some great music, including shows with Dockery & Conley.. The
>> > country
>> > music singer-songwriter Conway Twitty graduated from high school at
>> > Smith's... I'm not sure if he's known or remembered very much anywhere
> but
>> > around here but he had some big hits back in the 1960s-70s.
>> >
>> > Smith's Station is about 10 miles out of town from here
>> >
>> >> > But your admission that you can't shake your "Dockery obsession" is
>> > noted, Mushmouth.
>> >>
>> >> alabama?
>> >>
>> >> that's about as SOUTH as it gets.
>> >
>> > Hell, Atlanta is considered North to many folks around here... heh.
>> >
>> > Curious, in what part of the world are you located?
>> >
>> >> that's almost as south as georgia.
>> >
>> > Exactly as far, really. Shadowville (a district of Columbus, Georgia)
> sits
>> > on the Georgia-Alabama border, seperated by the Chattahoochie River...
>> > Alabama's about a ten minute ride from where I type this, just over the
>> > bridge, in Phenix City:
>> >
>> >> i honestly think there are some folks around those small
>> >> towns that still think the War is going on.
>> >
>> > As you get out into the country more, absolutely, though with Fort
> Benning
>> > being here, pretty much /any/ war will do for the folks around here...
>> > Benning's been a big influence on this area since at least WW2, which
> keeps
>> > a lot of the economy troubles from hitting too hard, with the built-in
>> > income from the thousands of soldiers who come to town to shop. Also,
> with
>> > so many military people settling and retiring here (including my
>> > father,
>> > one
>> > of thousands of soldier who married a Southern girl and stayed here
>> > with
>> > her) almost everyone it seems is from "someplace else".
>> >
>> >> confederate flags and high school's named
>> >> stonewall high don't help.
>> >
>> > Oh yeah, Rebel flags are all over the place around here, including (up
>> > until
>> > a year or so ago) the Georgia stae flag!
>> >
>> >> haha
>> >>
>> >> i still have yet to visit vicksburg, mississippi as
>> >> part of my civil war tour.
>> >>
>> >> i've been to the major sights in the east.
>> >>
>> >> huge history in that neck of the woods.
>> >
>> > You might consider adding Shadowville to your tour, since this is the
> site
>> > of the "last land battle" of the Civil War:
>> >
>> > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bellware/
>> >
>> > "...The list also includes Columbus, Georgia the location of a little
>> > known
>> > engagement that took place on April 16,1865. And, surprising as it
> sounds,
>> > Columbus is the site of the actual 'Last Battle of the Civil War.'
>> > [...]
>> > In
>> > short, the battle was the last significant engagement of Wilson's Raid
>> > where
>> > Bvt. Maj. General James Harrison Wilson lead three divisions through
>> > Alabama
>> > and into Georgia in the Spring of 1865. [...] In short, the battle was
> the
>> > last significant engagement of Wilson's Raid where Bvt. Maj. General
> James
>> > Harrison Wilson lead three divisions through Alabama and into Georgia
>> > in
>> > the
>> > Spring of 1865. The divisions were lead by Generals Emory Upton, Edward
>> > McCook and Eli Long. After taking Selma and Montgomery on April 2 and
>> > April
>> > 12, 1865 respectively, they headed to Columbus, Georgia, which they
>> > captured. Upton's division was the one most involved in the attack on
>> > Columbus. His brigades were lead by Generals Andrew J. Alexander and
>> > Edward
>> > F. Winslow. Major General Howell Cobb commanded the 3,000 Confederate
>> > troops
>> > in defense of Columbus.
>> >
>> > Alexander's brigade attempted to capture the lower bridge between
>> > Girard
>> > and
>> > Columbus at about 2 p.m. on Easter Sunday April 16, 1865, but was
>> > repulsed.
>> > General Upton decided to try a nightault and received General
> Wilson's
>> > approval. General Winslow lead the attack on the 14th Street bridge
> after
>> > dark, about 8 p.m. By 10 p.m. the bridge was captured and Columbus
>> > fell.
>> > General Wilson made his headquarters at the Mott House on the river.
>> > The
>> > last person killed in the battle was Colonel C.A.L. Lamar of General
>> > Cobb's
>> > staff. He was shot from his horse at the foot of the bridge a few yards
>> > from
>> > the Mott house. Wilson left for Macon, GA on April 18. Johnston's truce
>> > with
>> > Sherman ceased hostilities in that theater before General Wilson
>> > arrived
>> > in
>> > Macon on April 20, 1865..."
>> >
>> > This "last battle" actually led to the creation of Coca-Cola, no
> kidding:
>> >
>> > From the archives:
>> > ----
>> > From: WRBRL-TV News Channel 3 (wrbl...@cbus.mindspring.com)
>> > Subject: An inch saves Coca-Cola.......?
>> > View: Complete Thread (5 articles)
>> > Newsgroups: alt.history.what-if
>> > Date: 1996/06/18
>> >
>> > Just an interesting tidbit. There would be no coke if one stray
> mini-ball
>> > had hit John Pemberton an inch or two higher.
>> >
>> > A week after Lee surrendered at Appomatox and a few days after Lincoln
> was
>> > shot, a huge force of Union cavalry led by Gen. James Wilson was
>> > bearing
>> > down on Columbus, Georgia. It's goal was to strike across the
>> > Chattahoochee
>> > River into the heart of Georgia. During the battle, which took place
>> > in
>> > Phenix City, Alabama, a Columbus pharmacist named John Pemberton
>> > charged
>> > across one of the bridges into the teeth of the Union advance. He was
>> > slashed with a saber and shot. Only the quick thinking of a friend
> saved
>> > his life by leading him off the field of battle.
>> > The wounds were painful, and Pemberton worked most of his life to find
> an
>> > adequate pain killer. He experimented with what was thought to be the
>> > miracle drug of the day: coca leaves (cocaine to me and you). He came
> up
>> > with a concoction some years later in Atlanta. It didn't go over big
>> > as
> a
>> > pain remedy, but did go over big as a fountain drink: it was Coca-Cola.
> So
>> > the next time you're pondering alternative histories while drinking
>> > down
> a
>> > nice cool coke, remember only by the grace of God are you enjoying a
> coke.
>> > ----
>> >
>> > Anyway, if you do happen to make it down this way, I'll give you the
>> > tour...
>> > which would mainly involve some excuses to drop in and jam with various
>> > folks, maybe write a song together...
>> >
>> > --
>> > "Twilight Girl" and other new poetry & music from Will Dockery:
>> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>>
>> i'm a southwestern soul.
>>
>> born in los angeles, lived most of my life in phoenix, az.
>
> Interesting, I was thinking about Phoenix just today, when I found myself
> reading about Alice Cooper, of all people (Bob Dylan in an interview once
> called him one of the "overlooked songwriters"), who spent most of his
> early
> years (along with the original AC band) there, and in fact had his first
> minor hit locally, there.
>
> I don't remember what got me into reading about Alice after not really
> thinking much about him for at least 30 years, but his story's pretty
> interesting. Here's a bit on his days in Phoenix:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Cooper
>
> "...After a series of childhood illnesses, Furnier and his family moved to
> Phoenix, Arizona. After Washington Elementary School, Furnier attended
> Cortez High School in northern Phoenix. He was also a member of the Order
> of
> DeMolay [...] In 1964, at the age of 16, Furnier was eager to take part in
> the local annual Letterman's talent show and gathered fellow cross-country
> teammates from the school to form a group for the show.[9] They named
> themselves The Earwigs, and since they didn't know how to play any
> instruments at the time, they dressed up like The Beatles and mimed their
> performance to Beatles songs. As a result of winning the talent show and
> loving the experience of being onstage, the group immediately proceeded to
> learn how to play instruments they acquired from a local pawn shop and
> soon
> renamed themselves The Spiders, featuring Furnier on vocals and harmonica,
> Glen Buxton on lead guitar, John Tatum on rhythm guitar, Dennis Dunaway on
> bass guitar, and John Speer on drums.[10] Musically, the group were
> inspired
> by artists such as The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Janis Joplin, The Who,
> The Kinks, and The Yardbirds. For the next year the band performed
> regularly
> around the Phoenix area with a huge black spider's web as their backdrop,
> the group's first stage prop. In 1965 they also recorded their first
> single
> "Why Don't You Love Me" (originally performed by The Blackwells), with
> Furnier learning the harmonica for the song. [...] In 1966, the members of
> The Spiders graduated from Cortez High School. After North High School
> footballer Michael Bruce replaced John Tatum on rhythm guitar, the band
> scored a local #1 radio hit with "Don't Blow Your Mind", an original
> composition from their second single release. By 1967, the band had begun
> to
> make regular roadtrips to Los Angeles, California to play shows. They soon
> renamed themselves The Nazz and released the single 'Wonder Who's Lovin'
> Her
> Now..."
>
> Anyway, no doubt that's of limited interest besides the Phoenix
> reference...
>
>> i tried moving around, but the desert always sucked me back in.
>>
>> i know allot of other desert dwellers, but many folks come
>> out here and don't have a taste for it. i suppose the heat
>> has something to do with that. to be honest, i don't even
>> notice it anymore. i've lived out here most of my life.
>
> I hear a lot about the "dry heat" out there, where the heat here is
> "oppressively humid"... "muggy".
>
>> that's some really cool history there. i especially liked
>> the part about coca-cola. thanks for sharing. i'm definitely
>> going to make it out there at some point. thanks for offering
>> to give a tour and jam out. that sounds cool.
>>
>> that part of the country, world is steeped in history. i know
>> southerners really enjoy history. they have allot to be proud of.
>> although, some people like to paint the War as only civil, others
>> make the case the it was between states. i like to think of it
>> as one of the most painful and extreme moments in our countries
>> history. it defines us as a nation. and anyone who denies that
>> fact is oblivious to the reality of the situation. no amount
>> of economic misery or 911 attacks will EVER compare to the misery
>> felt during those times. while it may be an embarrassing
>> moment in our history, it also set the precedent of what kind
>> of nation we were going to become.
>>
>> we are, whether we like it or not, a nation that "frees" other
>> nations. anyone think it's a joke? think a little harder.
>> the problem is that usually when we try to "free" them, we
>> simultaneously oppress them. the logic is that one nation cannot
>> set another nation free. it can only show it the road. the
>> oppressed nation must fight there own "revolutionary war" to
>> get there. that's when we step in like france did for us and
>> "save the day."
>>
>> free iraq;
>> free Afghanistan;
>> free Kuwait;
>> free the slaves;
>> free the colonists;
>> free german people;
>> free japan;
>> free Somalia;
>> free the south Vietnamese;
>>
>> and yet, can we really free anything if we're trapped
>> in the bondage of greed and money in exchange for happiness?
>> can we call ourselves free when we're ruled by commercial
>> television which orders us to go out and buy until we
>> go into bankruptcy? what kind of "freedom" did we end up
>> with?
>>
>> free the u.s.a.
>>
>> "free your mind and your will follow."
>
> Well put, and I'll return to this post on my return... the night is
> slipping
> by and I have to get out to George Sulzbach's to check on how his cover
> art
> for the CD, and his ideas for spot illos in the lyric booklet are coming
> along... we'd hoped he'd make it to the show last night at Sports Rock
> Cafe
> to get some sketches, but he's really the hermit type, living way out in
> the
> country with his art.
>
> No doubt I'll have a couple more of GB's stupid "Orsen Wells" imitations
> to
> laugh at before I close down, also... may let those dangle a bit, since
> they're rapidly degenerating to blubbering one-liners, as usual... heh.
>
> Ever notice that those two (GB & OWCC) never post at the same time, but
> their content and writing style is exactly the same?
>
> Interesting.
>
> --
> "Twilight Girl" and other new poetry & music from Will Dockery:
> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>
>
it's the dark side.
they claim that the people of their choosing don't
know how to write. they claim that people of their
choosing are stupid and illiterate.
they make all kinds of claims, but rarely if ever
post anything but drivel on their side of things.
evans farts out a poem a year if that.
wells, well...nothing but drivel.
gamble? drivel.
sherman? drivel.
b's cat? drivel.
now, ross, karla, jeanne and houstman DO write.
however, how come it is that just because they
write means everybody of their choosing sucks?
that's bullshit.
i notice, especially, that you go out of your way
to point to "good" poems by them. however, they
rarely, if ever, have anything good to say about
yours.
the same goes with goerge.
he's very diplomatic with those people.
however, they act like they're the .in
second coming all rolled up into one.
they can say i whine all they want.
i've got my opinions.
they think i'm influenced by you.
that's bullshit. i don't kiss anybody's
ass around here. i'm a floater.
however, i HATE egotisticalholes.
i suppose that's why i gravitate in your
direction. same with george.
if it's about "sides," i'm on the side
of people who don't show off, or get
too egotistical. i'm also on the side
of those who enjoy sharing more than
comparing creative writing, especially
on an open forum where trolls and k00ks
flourish.
anyway...
sorry i have to limit the number of newsgroups
i respond to. i still have yet to tweak my
"preferences" section in outlook.
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